Comments on: Joba Stealing Jacoby’s Thunder? http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:31:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/ hourly 1 By: gemini7 http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6143 gemini7 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:07:56 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6143 I'm happy and proud for Jacoby Ellsbury. It was only recent that I discovered him through my boyfriend who is from MA and was born into the Red Sox. We met a year and half ago and I've known the Red Sox only for that short period. I love the Red Sox now since knowing about the history going way back to Babe Ruth and the curse. It's just a horrible tragedy that the Red Sox have gone through so much but I'm happy for the Red Sox that they have pulled themselves through all along with the fans who never gave up from the grandparents who never had a chance to see them finally win! It's just so nice that Boston Red Sox have regained their pride and Red Sox Nation power! Everytime I see them play, I see glowing team players that are successful and really know how to rock the field! I don't like the word hate, but after learning what happened to the Red Sox with their sufferings and defeats, I am not happy to see the Yankees play. Ever since I've invited the Red Sox into my life, I will never be the same person again. I enjoy music preferably trance, techno and can't have Yankee lover DJ's anymore. It doesn't matter they won't have me as their fan either because I love the Red Sox. Although I'm not from MA or was born into it, I still love the Red Sox Nation because Jacoby needs me and all his Navajo Nation sisters and brothers to support him all the way! The Red Sox has changed my life in some way but it's positive and Jacoby and the success story behind him and the Red Sox Nation inspires me to live better. I lived on the Navajo reservation tens years of my life and lived the rest of the years in large cities. I know the hardships and the broken lives that take place on reservations. For people like Jacoby and Joba is a proof that Native Americans can lead successful lives too. Native Americans have suffered alot in the past and there was alot of bloodshed but some of us have moved on. Today we also have professional Native Americans that hold positions as doctors, lawyers and other professions. Anyone can be a success! Jacoby is the best and the Red Sox rules!!! I’m happy and proud for Jacoby Ellsbury. It was only recent that I discovered him through my boyfriend who is from MA and was born into the Red Sox. We met a year and half ago and I’ve known the Red Sox only for that short period. I love the Red Sox now since knowing about the history going way back to Babe Ruth and the curse. It’s just a horrible tragedy that the Red Sox have gone through so much but I’m happy for the Red Sox that they have pulled themselves through all along with the fans who never gave up from the grandparents who never had a chance to see them finally win! It’s just so nice that Boston Red Sox have regained their pride and Red Sox Nation power! Everytime I see them play, I see glowing team players that are successful and really know how to rock the field! I don’t like the word hate, but after learning what happened to the Red Sox with their sufferings and defeats, I am not happy to see the Yankees play. Ever since I’ve invited the Red Sox into my life, I will never be the same person again. I enjoy music preferably trance, techno and can’t have Yankee lover DJ’s anymore. It doesn’t matter they won’t have me as their fan either because I love the Red Sox. Although I’m not from MA or was born into it, I still love the Red Sox Nation because Jacoby needs me and all his Navajo Nation sisters and brothers to support him all the way! The Red Sox has changed my life in some way but it’s positive and Jacoby and the success story behind him and the Red Sox Nation inspires me to live better. I lived on the Navajo reservation tens years of my life and lived the rest of the years in large cities. I know the hardships and the broken lives that take place on reservations. For people like Jacoby and Joba is a proof that Native Americans can lead successful lives too. Native Americans have suffered alot in the past and there was alot of bloodshed but some of us have moved on. Today we also have professional Native Americans that hold positions as doctors, lawyers and other professions. Anyone can be a success! Jacoby is the best and the Red Sox rules!!!

]]> By: byron abeyta http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6142 byron abeyta Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:14:22 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6142 yeah both are Native American and i as a native american from New Mexico am proud that their are native figures in the league..GO SOX!!! yeah both are Native American and i as a native american from New Mexico am proud that their are native figures in the league..GO SOX!!!

]]> By: rezpoet http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6141 rezpoet Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:53:41 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6141 The important thing is now our kids have big league native ball players to look up to. I love the BoSox so naturally I hate the Yankees but I will still cheer for Joba Chamberlain. The important thing is now our kids have big league native ball players to look up to. I love the BoSox so naturally I hate the Yankees but I will still cheer for Joba Chamberlain.

]]> By: Native Oregonian http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6137 Native Oregonian Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:21:57 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6137 Jacoby was born near the Warm Springs Indian Reservation but not on it. He was in fact born in the border town called Madras. His mother relocated to Central Oregon but is not from here. He was raised with his mother's Navajo teachings but was not raised "on" the reservation. We, Central Oregonians are very proud of Jacoby and have to thank his mother Marjorie and for relocating to our area and raising such an awesome young man. I feel both of these atheletes do a great job in representing the native culture. As there are not many natives who make it to this level of play. We all hold them as our own even if they are not from our tribe. Jacoby was born near the Warm Springs Indian Reservation but not on it. He was in fact born in the border town called Madras. His mother relocated to Central Oregon but is not from here. He was raised with his mother’s Navajo teachings but was not raised “on” the reservation. We, Central Oregonians are very proud of Jacoby and have to thank his mother Marjorie and for relocating to our area and raising such an awesome young man. I feel both of these atheletes do a great job in representing the native culture. As there are not many natives who make it to this level of play. We all hold them as our own even if they are not from our tribe.

]]> By: Texas Gal http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6136 Texas Gal Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:23:25 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6136 I mentioned Jacoby being born on a reservation for two reasons: (1) to back up my statement that he is, in fact, a Native American, and was raised with that heritage as a major part of his childhood culture, and (2) because I found it interesting. Joba's Native heritage shaped a huge part of who he is now, and I was trying to cut off any questions about whether or not Jacoby was similarly raised- or was one of those people who pulls the old "my grandmother's sister's husband was 1/16th Cherokee" type deals. I never said Joba not being born on reservation makes him any less of a Native American- so if you read that into what I wrote, that's disappointing. This is not a contest to see who is "more" Native American- because that would be pointless and stupid. There is no contest: they both are. This is a question of a baseball record- stats and record books are the foundation of the sport, and it's extremely important, therefore, that those records are factually accurate. It's also a question of reporters who are fail to fact-check before they write something. I mentioned Jacoby being born on a reservation for two reasons: (1) to back up my statement that he is, in fact, a Native American, and was raised with that heritage as a major part of his childhood culture, and (2) because I found it interesting. Joba’s Native heritage shaped a huge part of who he is now, and I was trying to cut off any questions about whether or not Jacoby was similarly raised- or was one of those people who pulls the old “my grandmother’s sister’s husband was 1/16th Cherokee” type deals.

I never said Joba not being born on reservation makes him any less of a Native American- so if you read that into what I wrote, that’s disappointing.

This is not a contest to see who is “more” Native American- because that would be pointless and stupid. There is no contest: they both are.

This is a question of a baseball record- stats and record books are the foundation of the sport, and it’s extremely important, therefore, that those records are factually accurate. It’s also a question of reporters who are fail to fact-check before they write something.

]]> By: Dalt http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6135 Dalt Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:16:25 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6135 No, Joba is not stealing any thunder. Both are talented Native Americans. Both have different backgrounds. Both will bring only more hatred to the bitter Yankees and Red Sox rivalry. I also caught that draft error in the news stories. I don't know how so many publications could have got it wrong. Great piece, but what I can quite understand is why the author had to mention, "(Jacoby) was actually born on a reservation and lived there for six years." Um, ok. Joba was born in Lincoln, Neb., about an 90 minute drive to the Winnebago reservation. No, he didn't grow up there but that shouldn't take away any of his Native credibility. Let the two Native talents grow. We shouldn't be knocking them down by any means. Both are great role models for Native children. It will be a great day when Joba and Jacoby meet on the diamond. Good luck men. No, Joba is not stealing any thunder. Both are talented Native Americans. Both have different backgrounds. Both will bring only more hatred to the bitter Yankees and Red Sox rivalry.

I also caught that draft error in the news stories. I don’t know how so many publications could have got it wrong.

Great piece, but what I can quite understand is why the author had to mention, “(Jacoby) was actually born on a reservation and lived there for six years.”

Um, ok. Joba was born in Lincoln, Neb., about an 90 minute drive to the Winnebago reservation. No, he didn’t grow up there but that shouldn’t take away any of his Native credibility.

Let the two Native talents grow. We shouldn’t be knocking them down by any means. Both are great role models for Native children. It will be a great day when Joba and Jacoby meet on the diamond.

Good luck men.

]]> By: Steve http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6134 Steve Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:18:49 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6134 Winnebago? So they drive mobile homes instead of opening up casinos? Winnebago? So they drive mobile homes instead of opening up casinos?

]]> By: Red Sox Monster http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6133 Red Sox Monster Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:56:14 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6133 Nice catch on this. It'll be interesting to see if they STILL do it now.... Nice catch on this. It’ll be interesting to see if they STILL do it now….

]]> By: Ian http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6132 Ian Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:30:49 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6132 Any hate mail yet or things status quo in Texy's world. Any hate mail yet or things status quo in Texy’s world.

]]> By: Billy http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6131 Billy Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:49:02 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6131 Excellent, I'm always up to hear about my peoples making it into the bigs. It's a rare thing to come from a reservation and succeed that way. Thanks. (btw, I'm jicarilla apache from Dulce, NM reservation.) Excellent, I’m always up to hear about my peoples making it into the bigs. It’s a rare thing to come from a reservation and succeed that way. Thanks.
(btw, I’m jicarilla apache from Dulce, NM reservation.)

]]> By: Texas Gal http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6130 Texas Gal Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:57:58 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6130 Another new chapter in the Joba vs. Red Sox feud book - this time, the Red Sox phenom rookie beats the Yankees phenom rookie. Another new chapter in the Joba vs. Red Sox feud book – this time, the Red Sox phenom rookie beats the Yankees phenom rookie.

]]> By: Ian http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/09/joba_stealing_jacobys_thunder/comment-page-1/#comment-6129 Ian Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:18:24 +0000 http://d1077806.u46.nozonenet.com/wp/?p=670#comment-6129 Your facts are correct. Not surprising though to see a lazy writer from the Daily News not get his facts. Good stuff Texy. Your facts are correct. Not surprising though to see a lazy writer from the Daily News not get his facts.

Good stuff Texy.

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