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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-2/#comment-7573</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been waiting for this since the initial &quot;list&quot; was leaked:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1050929&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1050929&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been waiting for this since the initial &#8220;list&#8221; was leaked:<br />
<a href="http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1050929" rel="nofollow">http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view.bg?articleid=1050929</a></p>
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		<title>By: mermaidmarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>mermaidmarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the overnight to ruminate about this.  I&#039;m glad that there are no current (or real former) Red Sox heroes represented on the Mitchell list.  However, since I wasn&#039;t born tomorrow, I amhighly confident that there are many players who used who are not identified on this list.  I guess that is why &quot;the list&quot; itself is so troubling to me.  Lots of speculation that this keeps Clemens out of the HOF entirely.  I don&#039;t know how an acknowledged &quot;partial&quot; list helps baseball more than it hurts the players named, particularly when the evidence is primarily of a heresay nature and there will be little opportunity for the players named to clear their names.  Don&#039;t misunderstand, I am not arguing that these players did not use PEDs - for arguments sake, I&#039;ll allow that they all probably did - but Mitchell&#039;s list and his request that we need to move on from here and not &quot;punish&quot; these players because there is sufficient blame and culpability to go around (I think fans deserve a slice of pie too) stand at odds with each other.  It isn&#039;t, IMO, possible that the named players will not be punished by history for their inclusion in the list and yet moving on will in effect grant amnesty to all those players lucky enough not to have had relationships with the trainers who talked.

And this may get me flamed (dons asbestos suit) but for the exception of some of the really high profile stars, baseball is a sport with an extremely long season populated with lots of journeyman players with fairly short earning years, for whom I am sure the risk to benefit ratio of using PEDs (and lets be real, aside from the cheating aspect - these drugs can have serious risks and lasting effects) can be likened to anorexia and drug use among models  - it may be the only way that you can keep your job and meet the unrealistic expectations of your employer and/or the public/fans.

I suppose this sounds like being an apologist, and I don&#039;t mean it to.  I agree with Mitchell&#039;s hypothesis that the conduct of those that used PEDs and banned substances caused harm to the careers of those players who did not, and perhaps that is enough to not care &quot;so much&quot; about the loss of reputation being suffered by those named now.  But I think owners, management, cities and fans reaped the benefits of the risks taken by these players that they &quot;nudge nudge wink wink&quot; didn&#039;t know &quot;anything&quot; about - it is wrong to rest the blame chiefly on their, albeit, enhanced, shoulders.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the overnight to ruminate about this.  I&#8217;m glad that there are no current (or real former) Red Sox heroes represented on the Mitchell list.  However, since I wasn&#8217;t born tomorrow, I amhighly confident that there are many players who used who are not identified on this list.  I guess that is why &#8220;the list&#8221; itself is so troubling to me.  Lots of speculation that this keeps Clemens out of the HOF entirely.  I don&#8217;t know how an acknowledged &#8220;partial&#8221; list helps baseball more than it hurts the players named, particularly when the evidence is primarily of a heresay nature and there will be little opportunity for the players named to clear their names.  Don&#8217;t misunderstand, I am not arguing that these players did not use PEDs &#8211; for arguments sake, I&#8217;ll allow that they all probably did &#8211; but Mitchell&#8217;s list and his request that we need to move on from here and not &#8220;punish&#8221; these players because there is sufficient blame and culpability to go around (I think fans deserve a slice of pie too) stand at odds with each other.  It isn&#8217;t, IMO, possible that the named players will not be punished by history for their inclusion in the list and yet moving on will in effect grant amnesty to all those players lucky enough not to have had relationships with the trainers who talked.</p>
<p>And this may get me flamed (dons asbestos suit) but for the exception of some of the really high profile stars, baseball is a sport with an extremely long season populated with lots of journeyman players with fairly short earning years, for whom I am sure the risk to benefit ratio of using PEDs (and lets be real, aside from the cheating aspect &#8211; these drugs can have serious risks and lasting effects) can be likened to anorexia and drug use among models  &#8211; it may be the only way that you can keep your job and meet the unrealistic expectations of your employer and/or the public/fans.</p>
<p>I suppose this sounds like being an apologist, and I don&#8217;t mean it to.  I agree with Mitchell&#8217;s hypothesis that the conduct of those that used PEDs and banned substances caused harm to the careers of those players who did not, and perhaps that is enough to not care &#8220;so much&#8221; about the loss of reputation being suffered by those named now.  But I think owners, management, cities and fans reaped the benefits of the risks taken by these players that they &#8220;nudge nudge wink wink&#8221; didn&#8217;t know &#8220;anything&#8221; about &#8211; it is wrong to rest the blame chiefly on their, albeit, enhanced, shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-2/#comment-7571</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGwire is ALL OVER the report.  His name appears 46 times.

Sosa isn&#039;t mentioned.  But, again- just because someone wasn&#039;t mentioned doesn&#039;t mean the Mitchell group forgot about them, or that they cleared their name -- it just means that none of the informants and/or evidence they saw implicated that person.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGwire is ALL OVER the report.  His name appears 46 times.</p>
<p>Sosa isn&#8217;t mentioned.  But, again- just because someone wasn&#8217;t mentioned doesn&#8217;t mean the Mitchell group forgot about them, or that they cleared their name &#8212; it just means that none of the informants and/or evidence they saw implicated that person.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just realized this...
Where are Sosa and/or McGwire?
Didn&#039;t they pretty much start the need to investigate this a few years ago?  They weren&#039;t even mentioned once.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just realized this&#8230;<br />
Where are Sosa and/or McGwire?<br />
Didn&#8217;t they pretty much start the need to investigate this a few years ago?  They weren&#8217;t even mentioned once.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current &amp; former Boras clients I see on the list are:
Rick Ankiel
Barry Bonds
Kevin Brown
Eric Gagne
Scott Schoeneweis
Gary Sheffield
Ron Villone
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current &#038; former Boras clients I see on the list are:<br />
Rick Ankiel<br />
Barry Bonds<br />
Kevin Brown<br />
Eric Gagne<br />
Scott Schoeneweis<br />
Gary Sheffield<br />
Ron Villone</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was really interesting that the MLBPA guys tried to sound like the victims during the entire thing saying they haven&#039;t even read the report. Sounds weird?
Also who would have guessed that Paul LoDuca had such a major role in this. I mean it is reported that he even ordered HGH for Gange in LA. Never saw that one coming.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was really interesting that the MLBPA guys tried to sound like the victims during the entire thing saying they haven&#8217;t even read the report. Sounds weird?<br />
Also who would have guessed that Paul LoDuca had such a major role in this. I mean it is reported that he even ordered HGH for Gange in LA. Never saw that one coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an interesting question that I posed on my site as well.

How many of the list were or are Boras&#039; clients?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an interesting question that I posed on my site as well.</p>
<p>How many of the list were or are Boras&#8217; clients?</p>
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		<title>By: ally</title>
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		<dc:creator>ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brian roberts? you&#039;ve got to be kidding me. pedroia could kick his ass. his name shouldn&#039;t be in there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brian roberts? you&#8217;ve got to be kidding me. pedroia could kick his ass. his name shouldn&#8217;t be in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most interesting comments all day were those from the MLBPA guys.  They were LIVID.

And you are VERY welcome, fc- it was fun.  Well, as fun as stressing out about whether a bunch of grown-ass men stuck needles in their butts full of juice can be.  :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most interesting comments all day were those from the MLBPA guys.  They were LIVID.</p>
<p>And you are VERY welcome, fc- it was fun.  Well, as fun as stressing out about whether a bunch of grown-ass men stuck needles in their butts full of juice can be.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: fc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TG, thanks so much for hosting our little support group!!   Have I told you lately how awesome your blog is?

Jason, I&#039;m sorry I had even a moment of doubt.  Please, please continue to be worthy of our trust.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TG, thanks so much for hosting our little support group!!   Have I told you lately how awesome your blog is?</p>
<p>Jason, I&#8217;m sorry I had even a moment of doubt.  Please, please continue to be worthy of our trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Below is a list of the 89 players, retired and current, mentioned by name in Mitchell Report.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071213&amp;content_id=2325070&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071213&amp;content_id=2325070&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Below is a list of the 89 players, retired and current, mentioned by name in Mitchell Report.<br />
<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071213&#038;content_id=2325070&#038;vkey=news_mlb&#038;fext=.jsp&#038;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071213&#038;content_id=2325070&#038;vkey=news_mlb&#038;fext=.jsp&#038;c_id=mlb</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wiki article is pretty accurate. There&#039;s so much to read in the report you might miss a name or too. If you thought someone might be on there, just do a search for that player like most of us have.

Let the fallout begin with MLB and the MLBPA battling over drug-testing again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wiki article is pretty accurate. There&#8217;s so much to read in the report you might miss a name or too. If you thought someone might be on there, just do a search for that player like most of us have.</p>
<p>Let the fallout begin with MLB and the MLBPA battling over drug-testing again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt&#039;s thoughts on THE LIST are here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://38pitches.com/2007/12/13/the-most-explosive-24-hours-in-the-games-history/#more-141&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://38pitches.com/2007/12/13/the-most-explosive-24-hours-in-the-games-history/#more-141&lt;/a&gt;
-or just go to 38pitches.com and click the link
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt&#8217;s thoughts on THE LIST are here:<br />
<a href="http://38pitches.com/2007/12/13/the-most-explosive-24-hours-in-the-games-history/#more-141" rel="nofollow">http://38pitches.com/2007/12/13/the-most-explosive-24-hours-in-the-games-history/#more-141</a><br />
-or just go to 38pitches.com and click the link</p>
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		<title>By: njsoxfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>njsoxfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s wikipedia, so it&#039;s not the most reliable source, but this seems like a good summary:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_named_in_the_Mitchell_Report&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_named_in_the_Mitchell_Report&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s wikipedia, so it&#8217;s not the most reliable source, but this seems like a good summary:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_named_in_the_Mitchell_Report" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_named_in_the_Mitchell_Report</a></p>
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		<title>By: starr4</title>
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		<dc:creator>starr4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s in interesting point. The rumors had the Mets implicated. Such is the nature of rumors, I suppose.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s in interesting point. The rumors had the Mets implicated. Such is the nature of rumors, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number of Yankees from the 2000 World Champions roster named in the report?  EIGHT.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number of Yankees from the 2000 World Champions roster named in the report?  EIGHT.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16 current or former Yankees, 16 current or former Orioles, and 15 former Red Sox players.

Oddly enough my list doesn&#039;t have Gagne and Donnelly on it. Big oops on my part.

What&#039;s shocking to me is that there wasn&#039;t a lot of Mets on there given that Radomski worked for them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16 current or former Yankees, 16 current or former Orioles, and 15 former Red Sox players.</p>
<p>Oddly enough my list doesn&#8217;t have Gagne and Donnelly on it. Big oops on my part.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s shocking to me is that there wasn&#8217;t a lot of Mets on there given that Radomski worked for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I disagree that the Red Sox were &quot;spared&quot; - look at Ian&#039;s list, tons of current and former Sox were named.  Theo&#039;s private emails were quoted in several places.  Mo Vaughn was named.

The reality is: lots of Orioles were named (Bigbie as the source) and then several Yankees (McNamee as the source)- with some Dodgers thrown in.  There weren&#039;t a lot of guys named from MOST teams, not just the Sox.

HOWEVER, I think it&#039;s very obvious this thing is by no means complete.  That doesn&#039;t mean everyone else is innocent- it just means the Mitchell committee didn&#039;t have a Bigbie or a McNamee to rat on the other clubhouses.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I disagree that the Red Sox were &#8220;spared&#8221; &#8211; look at Ian&#8217;s list, tons of current and former Sox were named.  Theo&#8217;s private emails were quoted in several places.  Mo Vaughn was named.</p>
<p>The reality is: lots of Orioles were named (Bigbie as the source) and then several Yankees (McNamee as the source)- with some Dodgers thrown in.  There weren&#8217;t a lot of guys named from MOST teams, not just the Sox.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, I think it&#8217;s very obvious this thing is by no means complete.  That doesn&#8217;t mean everyone else is innocent- it just means the Mitchell committee didn&#8217;t have a Bigbie or a McNamee to rat on the other clubhouses.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a man of many talents.

And it&#039;s disturbing to see those emails from Theo quoted in there about Gagne... and all of those concerns were summarily ignored anyway.
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<p>And it&#8217;s disturbing to see those emails from Theo quoted in there about Gagne&#8230; and all of those concerns were summarily ignored anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: starr4</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-2/#comment-7554</link>
		<dc:creator>starr4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll play the role of devil&#039;s advocate here, and it&#039;s not from a lack of love and affection for Tek, but the story here, for me,  is how pervasive the use of performance enhancing substances are in baseball.

While our beloved Red Sox are spared in this report (and there&#039;s some conflict of interest on Mitchell&#039;s part as Director for the Red Sox), it doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re not using something, just that no evidence was uncovered or corroborated during this 20-month investigation.

To wit: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/&lt;/a&gt;

Now, no throwing things at me, please.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll play the role of devil&#8217;s advocate here, and it&#8217;s not from a lack of love and affection for Tek, but the story here, for me,  is how pervasive the use of performance enhancing substances are in baseball.</p>
<p>While our beloved Red Sox are spared in this report (and there&#8217;s some conflict of interest on Mitchell&#8217;s part as Director for the Red Sox), it doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re not using something, just that no evidence was uncovered or corroborated during this 20-month investigation.</p>
<p>To wit: <a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/</a></p>
<p>Now, no throwing things at me, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-2/#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pulling double-duty giving you the information as well as posting it on my site.

what i find to be the most interesting thing about Gagne and Donnelly&#039;s involvement in the report is that Theo and his staff knew of their alleged use and didn&#039;t do anything about it..

Caroline i agree with you. Roberts probably should not be in the list because of the heresay factor.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pulling double-duty giving you the information as well as posting it on my site.</p>
<p>what i find to be the most interesting thing about Gagne and Donnelly&#8217;s involvement in the report is that Theo and his staff knew of their alleged use and didn&#8217;t do anything about it..</p>
<p>Caroline i agree with you. Roberts probably should not be in the list because of the heresay factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-1/#comment-7552</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MLB Players&#039; Association put out a memo to all players basically telling them not to cooperate.  Which, as much as it sucks to tattle, is still a really skeevy thing for the PA to do.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MLB Players&#8217; Association put out a memo to all players basically telling them not to cooperate.  Which, as much as it sucks to tattle, is still a really skeevy thing for the PA to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-1/#comment-7551</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel terrible for guys like Brian Roberts, who are basically in this article completely on the grounds of hearsay.  Someone said that he used steroids one time, and there&#039;s no corroboration. Sure, he could&#039;ve talked to Mitchell and responded, but it&#039;s an awfully awkward position to be in, because you do not want to be in the position of tattling.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel terrible for guys like Brian Roberts, who are basically in this article completely on the grounds of hearsay.  Someone said that he used steroids one time, and there&#8217;s no corroboration. Sure, he could&#8217;ve talked to Mitchell and responded, but it&#8217;s an awfully awkward position to be in, because you do not want to be in the position of tattling.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-1/#comment-7550</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: Ian is like our roving, on-the-scene reporter.  Thank goodness- I&#039;m not near coherent enough to parse through that document, beyond laughing at Grimsley&#039;s stupid-looking checks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: Ian is like our roving, on-the-scene reporter.  Thank goodness- I&#8217;m not near coherent enough to parse through that document, beyond laughing at Grimsley&#8217;s stupid-looking checks.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.outincenterfield.com/2007/12/day_of_reckoning_open_thread/comment-page-1/#comment-7549</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes- because this stupid steroids witch hunt and a centuries-old religious and political war have a lot in common.

Also: someone commented that &quot;Northern Ireland was easier than this&quot;.  I about blew a gasket.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes- because this stupid steroids witch hunt and a centuries-old religious and political war have a lot in common.</p>
<p>Also: someone commented that &#8220;Northern Ireland was easier than this&#8221;.  I about blew a gasket.</p>
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